Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the primary shooter involved in the Ft. Hood killings earlier today, has far more in common with the Islamic terrorists we are fighting against than the men and women of the U.S. military he was going to be fighting beside.
It is not yet clear whether or not Hasan was part of a terror cell or whether there was more than one shooter. Whether he acted alone or singly, this was an act of Islamic terrorism – no matter how much the media tries to obscure the fact.
Of course, Obama and the MSM can never admit that radical Islam is among the greatest foreign threats we face today. Obama doesn’t even think the murders at Ft. Hood are worth mentioning until two and half minutes into his speech. His arrogance and disdain for the military become more obvious every day. Disgusting.
That is a lot of speculation about unsubstantiated rumors and blog comments with no context or frame of reference. Even the main stream media and Fox has so much misinformation (he is dead, he is not dead, the person who shot him is dead, no she is still alive) that it seems premature to draw any conclusions about why he did it and what his intentions were. As soon as I saw the guys name I knew people would be making a big deal about his heritage and religion and call this a terrorist attack and then somehow blame Obama or make him out to be insensitive. I'd rather not jump to conclusions until the FBI and military investigate it a little bit more. Sure, it makes you look brilliant if it turns out you are right, but if you and all these extremist websites are wrong…
A man identified by Fox News Channel as Nader Hasan, a cousin of the alleged gunman, just told Fox that Nidal Malik Hasan "had no violent tendencies," but felt he had been harassed while in the military. His cousin had retained a military lawyer to fight harassment, Nader Hasan told Fox.
I re-read my post and can't find any speculation. To go 'graph by 'graph . . .
Hasan proved his loyalty to Allah and "Islamic victims of American oppresion" by killing the enemy – our soldiers.
He's Islamic. He created terror by killing and wounding more than two dozen people. Islam was a primary motivator of his shooting spree. Therefore, he's an Islamic terrorist.
The MSM can't allow Obama to be perceived as weak. He was raised Muslim and has clear Muslim sympathies. Therefore, the media cannot allow Obama to be seen as kowtowing to a religion who has thousands of followers (if not more) anxious to kill as many Americans as possible. The clear Islamic element in the killings will be downplayed in the media as much as possible.
Anonymous, your point is?
Oh, and I don't necessarily blame Obama for this but he doesn't need my help in looking like he doesn't give a flip about a few U.S. soldiers.
The speculation was in reference to the news articles on your links. The anonymous comment was also me (I forgot I had to fill out my name every time) and I was just pointing out that he may have been another crazy and disgruntled employee.
The MSM (yahoo news) is now reporting "Soldiers who witnessed the rampage reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander. He said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan made the comment before the shooting spree."
So I may be wrong, he may have been inspired by his religious beliefs. I guess it doesn't matter to me what you call him, he is a murdered whether he is crazy or sane or a Muslim or a Baptist. I just don't understand why it is necessary to be a sensationalist and call him an Islamic Terrorist. If you kill people and you go to the Church of Christ should we call people Christian Terrorists? Is the guy who killed the abortion doctor in Kansas a representative of all Christians? Was he crazy or just an extremist, or both?
I just find it hard to believe that this guy was in the military for all these years, had a college degree in counseling, went to Prayer in his military uniform, and was promoted to Major in the Army but was an Islamic Terrorist. But I guess that is the point. If he was not one before, he became a Terrorist the moment he decided to open fire on his peers and brothers. I'll be curious to see what he says when they question him. NPR reported that he was on a ventilator and officials had not even questioned him yet.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is terrible and a tragedy and Hasan is a murder no matter why he did it. But I also disagree that Obama does not care about U.S. soldiers. We will fail in Afghanistan if we do not have a plan like they had in Iraq. That is why the surge worked in Iraq, because they had a plan not just because they added more soldiers. If Obama did not care about a few lost soldiers he would have just increased the numbers without a clear plan and change in strategy. That's how I see it anyway. I'm sure you will tell me why I am wrong. 🙂
On the bright side I have heard great things about the response of the soldiers and the first responders in the moments during and following the attack, and I think it was great that it was a woman who shot and stopped him.
Muslim terrorists were responsible for 911 and have been thwarted in several more terror plots against us and you wonder why Hasan's religion matters. Phenomenal.
Obama has proven that he has poor judgement when it comes to military matters when he opposed the surge. He needs to take the advice of his generals and provide them with the troops needed to pacify the region.
Why does it matter what the gender is of the person that shot Hasan?
I just don't hear many stories about women heroes in situations like this. Either people are so freaked out they do nothing and eventually the police or swat show up and they shot the gunman or they turn a gun on themselves. Speaks well of the security and preparedness of the men and women on that base in or involved with the armed forced.
It's such a bizarre story.
Sept 11 was 8 years ago and was clearly a terrorist attack. As horrible as this is it is not in the same league as 911. That was a group with world wide connections and ties to known terrorist groups. This was one lone dude who seemingly made a recent decision (the 2 fire arms were not military issued, he purchased them locally within the last few weeks) to kill soldiers for unknown reasons. Why is it so surprising that anyone might question his mental health? Why is it so shocking that I would not assume that he did it only because his religion told him to do it and therefore he HAS to be an Islamic Terrorist. My first assumption is that he went crazy because I can't imagine anyone sane killing that many people publicly.
The gender of the cop who took Hasan down doesn't matter. I am just glad that she took action before he killed more people.
You have a pretty narrow definition of Islamic terrorism. Did you mean to say that Muslim suicide bombers are all crazy? It's seems kind of incongruent with the rest of your political outlook.
You do not think it is at least ironic that he was part of a religious and cultural movement that is often criticized for it's poor treatments of women and he gets shot by a woman?
I do actually think that much of what is considered "radical ideology," or "radical Islam," is really a form of mental illness, so yes I think suicide bombers and people who shoot abortion doctors are crazy. I don't blame Christianity or Islam, I blame crazy people and Extremists who encourage and incite crazy people.
Even the main stream media seem to be asking the questions "Was he a terrorist? Did he do this because of his Islamic beliefs?" So you may be right and I may be wrong, but I think it is likely to be a little of both when more of the story comes out. If they question him and he says "I did it for Allah" then everyone will know and there will be no need to wonder anymore.
I suppose it is ironic that a woman would take down a Muslim extremist but the important thing is that he was stopped as soon as he was, not the gender of the person who did it. Side note – the fact that Hasan killed as many as he did is a good argument for concealed carry.
Nice moral equivalence effort. It will always be more politically correct to condemn Christians (especially white men) than to point out the danger posed by predominantly Arabic Muslims when someone notices one of them may be about to commit violence. If law enforcement officials had been more proactive when they found the material Hasan had put on the web, this massacre might not have happened.
You have to be kidding. A Muslim with an extremist history starts popping caps into unarmed soldiers while praising Allah and you wonder if he was motivated by religion?
Man you like to debate…. you are either missing the point I am trying to make or you find it irrelevant and are ignoring it.
He may still be disgruntled.
He may be a home grown Islamic Extremist.
He likely is still crazy either way.
You don't have to be an Islamic Extremist to be a vindictive, disgruntled, dumb-ass, crazy, asshole. But it helps.
But if HE says that he did it to kill infidels then there is no debate and the FBI and other officials don't have to prove it to you or me or even the most doubting Liberal. They can focus on his connections and if he had help or orders or if he acted alone. So I'm still very curious to see what he has to say, even though it doesn't really matter. I just heard that he is conscious now.
He is a murdering asshole. Murder is murder whether someone does it because the other person is gay or a different race or a different religion.
So, do you think they could prosecute him under Hate Crime legislation? 🙂
I'm debating because you refuse to see what's right in front of you.
If a white guy walked into a mosque, yelled "Jesus rocks!" and started blowing people away, I would think he had some whacky, mutant version of Christian beliefs. If it was later found out that he attended churches where violence against non-Christians was preached, I would think he was probably motivated by that Christian preaching.
However, the same standard is not being applied to Hasan as to my hypothetical nut job. He must be given special consideration as a member of minority group.
And the difference between Christianity and Islam, when it comes to violence, is that violence against non-Muslims is a central tenant of a lot of Islamic teachings. Christianity may have small sects that promote violence (I haven't looked) but they pose no where near the threat that radical Islam does.
Let me address your points:
I'm pretty damn sure he was disgruntled.
Hasan is probably more home grown than our president is.
He's probably no more crazy than any other Muslim terrorist.
And no argument from me.
Only white people will be prosecuted under hate crimes legislation. Trust me on this one.
Did you know Hasan apparently tried to contact al-Qaeda and nothing was done because of political correctness? http://www.tighturl.com/120i
See, that is just it, I think the same standard IS being applied to Hasan as to your hypothetical nut job. I feel like I am focused on the word "Extremist" and you are focused on the word "Islamic". It was not so clear in the beginning but as the facts come out it seems to be more obvious that he is some kind of Islamic Terrorist asshole.
I don't know how many F'n times I have to say I am probably wrong and you are probably right. Curses and exclamations!
An extremist is an extremist no matter what the basis is. How do you know that some of the stuff you have heard from the Qur'an is not taken out of context by you AND by some of them? The bible is taken out of context every day (Westboro Baptist Church comes to mind). I can't take credit for this, I found it on some church website. The link is below with my name.
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Here are some choice passages from the KJV Bible which when read in isolation makes the Bible appear to be a primer for evil:
1) In Leviticus 25:44-46, the Lord tells the Israelites it's OK to own slaves, provided they are strangers or heathens.
2) In Samuel 15:2-3, the Lord orders Saul to kill all the Amalekite men, women and infants.
3) In Exodus 15:3, the Bible tells us the Lord is a man of war.
4) In Numbers 31, the Lord tells Moses to kill all the Midianites, sparing only the virgins.
5) In Deuteronomy 13:6-16, the Lord instructs Israel to kill anyone who worships a different god or who worships the Lord differently.
6) In Mark 7:9, Jesus is critical of the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as prescribed by Old Testament law.
7) In Luke 19:22-27, Jesus orders killed anyone who refuses to be ruled by him.
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Deuteronomy 13:6-16 is on of my favorites, but Luke 19:27 is short and to the point, as well as being New Testament! "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Jesus said that! Add crazy and you have violence from a religion of peace.
The tone of your writing often aggravates the shit out of me. I have no idea why I think I have to challenge you… just because it seems like no one else is I guess… I should just let you say whatever you think and state things as if they are fact. No skin off my nose.
Without taking issue with the interpretation of the some of the other verses listed, the passage from Luke is taken grossly out of context. Maybe that's your point.
Jesus was telling a parable about a nobleman. It's the nobleman in the story that wants to kill his enemies, not Jesus.
Your moral equivalence exercise falls apart when brought into the real world.
How many Christian nations sell members of other religions into slavery?
How many Christian churches teach that Muslims are animals and not real people?
How many Christians commonly practice female genital mutilation?
How many Christians perform "honor killings" when a female relative violates Sharia law?
You get the idea.
When I write an article, I always make a point to list my sources and not confuse speculation with fact.
Ann Coulter is one of my favorite columnists, so far as writing style goes, which may be why my articles rub you wrong.